Comments on: Mac Mail and Microsoft Exchange via IMap http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/ Help for the Switcher and New Apple Macintosh User Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: George Starcher http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-12508 George Starcher Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:27:43 +0000 http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/#comment-12508 I meant secure from a data path standpoint. It is encrypted from the Enterprise systems all the way to the device. True if content security is not enabled on the device along with a locking password then someone could just pick up the physical berry unit and get into the data. But relative to Joe's IT department's complaint about IMap vs the blackberry the key issue is the encryption in transit of the credentials and data. For that purpose the blackberry system with a corporate BES is much more secure. I meant secure from a data path standpoint. It is encrypted from the Enterprise systems all the way to the device. True if content security is not enabled on the device along with a locking password then someone could just pick up the physical berry unit and get into the data. But relative to Joe’s IT department’s complaint about IMap vs the blackberry the key issue is the encryption in transit of the credentials and data. For that purpose the blackberry system with a corporate BES is much more secure.

]]> By: Dan Keldsen http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-12507 Dan Keldsen Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:16:32 +0000 http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/#comment-12507 Great entry overall George, but a little nit in your comment to Joe. There is no such thing as "completely secure" - for Blackberries, or anything else. I will grant you that the *possibility* that you *can* secure a Blackberry to a far greater degree than an iPhone, is a true statement, and completely agree with you otherwise state (i.e., that unsecured IMAP, POP3, etc. is not a great idea). It seems dangerous to me to think/state that a Blackberry is "completely secure." The subpoint is, there are MANY ways that companies CAN make systems more secure. But do they? Should they? Security can frequently get in the way, as much as it can prevent "bad things" from happening. Sidebar: We didn't cover Blackberry security per se, but in 2 months ago, we (AIIM Market Intelligence) wrote up a nearly 70 page document on Content Security (i.e. security of content, no matter where it lives). Freely available, for anyone interested. Search on Market IQ on Content Security, or linked a number of times from my blog. Cheers, Dan Great entry overall George, but a little nit in your comment to Joe. There is no such thing as “completely secure” – for Blackberries, or anything else.

I will grant you that the *possibility* that you *can* secure a Blackberry to a far greater degree than an iPhone, is a true statement, and completely agree with you otherwise state (i.e., that unsecured IMAP, POP3, etc. is not a great idea).

It seems dangerous to me to think/state that a Blackberry is “completely secure.”

The subpoint is, there are MANY ways that companies CAN make systems more secure. But do they? Should they? Security can frequently get in the way, as much as it can prevent “bad things” from happening.

Sidebar: We didn’t cover Blackberry security per se, but in 2 months ago, we (AIIM Market Intelligence) wrote up a nearly 70 page document on Content Security (i.e. security of content, no matter where it lives). Freely available, for anyone interested. Search on Market IQ on Content Security, or linked a number of times from my blog.

Cheers,
Dan

]]> By: George Starcher http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-12506 George Starcher Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:06:22 +0000 http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/#comment-12506 It is just like pop3. Unencrypted by itself. A blackberry is secure in its entire data path. You would be potentially exposing data unless imap is run over SSL for encryption purposes. Plus likely your company has a large investment in the blackberry platform. Just so a user can jump to an iphone is not enough of a valid business reason to throw away the investment in the completely secure and corporate managable Blackberry solution. There is no corporate management of the iphone to ensure the device keeps the data encrypted, that the device can be wiped and disabled remotely if it is lost or stolen. So it is more than just an issue of default imap being unencrypted. It is just like pop3. Unencrypted by itself. A blackberry is secure in its entire data path. You would be potentially exposing data unless imap is run over SSL for encryption purposes. Plus likely your company has a large investment in the blackberry platform. Just so a user can jump to an iphone is not enough of a valid business reason to throw away the investment in the completely secure and corporate managable Blackberry solution. There is no corporate management of the iphone to ensure the device keeps the data encrypted, that the device can be wiped and disabled remotely if it is lost or stolen. So it is more than just an issue of default imap being unencrypted.

]]> By: Joe Manich http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-12499 Joe Manich Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:21:39 +0000 http://typicalmacuser.com/wordpress/2007/12/05/mac-mail-and-microsoft-exchange-via-imap/#comment-12499 Our IT department here claims that IMAP has serious security issues. Is this true? I would like them to expose IMAP so that I can dump my blackberry and jump to the iPhone. JoeM Our IT department here claims that IMAP has serious security issues. Is this true? I would like them to expose IMAP so that I can dump my blackberry and jump to the iPhone.

JoeM

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